I mean, I feel as though it's a nervous moment. PATRICK RADDEN KEEFE: Oh, I wouldn't even be equipped to say. So if you were somebody who liked brick and mortar stores, going to see a movie in a theater, buying a book at an independent bookstore, all of that feels increasingly in jeopardy to me.ĪNDY SERWER: And what are your thoughts? I mean, I know you're not an economist, obviously, but just sort of taking that a step further on the current economic situation in America as we perhaps emerge from the pandemic. Or maybe they're just the kind of equivalent of cockroaches surviving a terrible event.īut even on a broader level, I mean, I feel as though there are certain economic trends that affect the way we live as consumers that were just exacerbated by the pandemic. You know, maybe they have a sweet deal with the rent. And it's something my family noticed is that a lot of the places that we love the most, little restaurants, little bookstores were the ones that didn't make it through for one reason or another.Īnd then at a at a local level, you had other places that you're kind of mystified. PATRICK RADDEN KEEFE: Well, it's a thing that I noticed was that the- you know, I live in Westchester County in New York. Can you give us a little context about that? And is this a writ large situation or just one restaurant?

I think you were talking about a popular Filipino restaurant, Bad Saint in Washington, DC. PATRICK RADDEN KEEFE: It's great to be with you.ĪNDY SERWER: So I want to ask you about a tweet that you put out just a few days ago, where you wrote one of the small but cruel ironies of the pandemic, is that the best businesses are often the ones that perish, while the worst survive and thrive. And welcome to our guest, Patrick Radden Keefe, author of a number of award-winning books, including most recently 'Rogues- True Stories of Grifters, Killers, Rebels, and Crooks,' a collection of his stories from 'The New Yorker' where he is a staff writer. And welcome to 'Influencers.' I'm Andy Serwer. From the first sentence, I want to just grab you by the lapels and pull you into the story, and I don't want any friction.ĪNDY SERWER: Hello, everyone. I mean, the level of sneakiness around very wealthy American clients hiding their money abroad is kind of staggering. PATRICK RADDEN KEEFE: There are all kinds of ways in which, if you are a bad actor but a powerful and resourceful bad actor, you can mitigate any real-world impact in your life for your own horrendous decisions.

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